Aod to 4r70w conversion Alot of the previous threads are from the early 2000s about the AOD swap Sep 5, 2001 · Some cash changed hands and I drove home with a '98 Vintage AOD-E/4R70W, Bauman control box, wiring harnesses (2), and a flexplate in the back of my truck. Apr 12, 2002 · Obviously, if you are converting from an AOD you will have most of these components. Hoping to get for less than $100. The adapter material is 356 T-6 heat treated aluminum alloy, and the adapter has a provision to retain the original early Bronco mount. Now you're gonna say that they're weak and crappy, but there's Apr 22, 2020 · So I already own a hydraulic AOD. 6 MVIII) I have behind a 289 going into a 64 Falcon. The other components are listed here in case you are wisely changing from a manual trans to an automatic Click to expand The transmission mount works great with your Tremec T5, AOD, AODE, and 4R70W Transmissions. See Below for More information. There's plenty of varying information about the AOD swap into the vintage mustang, and I've found one solid thread on the 4r70w swap. Nov 25, 2016 · Although you can swap AOD-E and 4R70W geartrain components into an AOD, it makes more sense to opt for the gear ratio advantage of the 4R70W, which is geared more for the Modular engines that don Jun 29, 2013 · AOD to 4R70W swap Jump to Latest 4. I tried searching but this isn't exactly a common swap so I came up empty-handed. The V6 model has the same 6 bolt bell-housing pattern as a small block Ford as well as utilizing the same 2 bolt starter. I was initially set on a early non-electric AOD, but quickly decided against it after learning about the benefits of the 4R70W. The AODE and 4R70W are electronically shifted instead of shifted by hydraulics through a throttle valve cable and governor control like the AOD. Upgrade your early Bronco to an electronically-controlled Ford Automatic Overdrive Transmission - adapts AODE, 4R70W or 4R75W to a Dana 20 Bronco transfer case. This Crossmember will not work with 4WD AOD using If you're planning on a modern Ford AOD-E, 4R70W (wide ratio AOD-E), and 4R75 or Ford E4OD and 4R100 transmission with this kit? By adding a US Shift Quick 4 stand-alone transmission controller you will save $100 dollars off of the cost of your Speed Gems adapter kit. Only had 51k on the clock and it had the teeth on the output shaft needed to turn the speedometer gear. 8L V-6 AOD-E/4R70W transmissions have only one less clutch plate than V-8 units. My '87 has a AOD now. Found a decent 4r70w and was wondering who has done this swap before? Using the US Shift Quick 4 controller with the Ford 4R70W or AOD-E transmission is simple and can be implemented in a variety of vehicles, including classic muscles cars, trucks, and modern sports cars. You do have to buy a TCS box to make the 4R70W work, but you avoid the problems of the TV cable, the weird shifting strategy and gain the ability to program shift points, kick down points, etc with the electronics. My research also suggests that even the V6 version is stronger than the AOD. Dec 26, 2004 · -As Quoted from TCCOA "3. There are simple, yet effective ways to modify your ford AOD transmission to perfection and that is what this blog post is covering. We Talk parts for our 1967 Mustang that 1967 - 1970 Mustang Automatic Overdrive Transmission Kit specifically for Holley Style Carburetors This Kit makes it easy to convert your 289/302/351W/ engine from a C4 or C6 transmission to an AOD automatic overdrive transmission using aftermarket Holley Style Carburetor. Even with expensive upgrades I'm not convinced the older AOD is worth the financial investment. Aug 30, 2010 · Just completed the tranny swap from an FMX to a year 2000 4r70w and high stall converter. Feb 11, 2023 · Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - 4R70W Gearing In AOD - Mopping up after a 4R70W job on a 1999 F150, I have two 4R70W units for parts or scrap. An AOD pan won't work. Oct 13, 2003 · The reason some say you don't have to shorten your driveline is that there are two lengths of AOD. Therefore it falls firmly in the AOD family, and in fact most 4R70W parts can be installed in either an AOD or AODE case. C4, C6, AOD, E4OD, 700R4, 4L60E, 4L80E, then finally 4R70W. It states that the transmission must be pre 1998 for it to fit a 5. 84:1 first gear vs. Any info, tricks, short-cuts, or hints would be greatly appreciated. Column Shift Linkage Installation Instructions for Ford AOD, 4R70W, and AODE d end onto the end of the stainless steel rod. It's just a straight-up simple bolt-on swap for tail May 22, 2014 · Here is a summary for those of you considering an AOD. I'd *like* to get some work done on this Dec 23, 2023 · 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Convert from AOD to 4r70W - I got a 93 302 f-150 AOD and the tranny needs rebuilt. You will need our #6044 or #6046 Adapter Housing or similar to use this cross member. The overall size and length make it an ideal fit. Flex-plate, torque converter, Dec 1, 2021 · I have a 1992 tbird sport 5. Attach the rod end to the trans arm with the 5/16"-24 x 1-1/4" hex head bolt, two fl I'm tired of rebuilding my AOD trans and found a place, Baumann Electronic Controls. What ECU do I need to make this work properly? Ford’s Automatic Overdrive (AOD) was firstly used in 1980 before it became an overly electronic controlled transmission AOD-E in 1991. Jan 29, 2011 · The AOD has always been the choice, yet using the last of the AOD trans family, an AODE/4R70W is even better. . The Mustang 4R70W also has the shorter 10. Found AA kit for a 700R4 behind a small block Ford. Additionally, the 1968-1970 Cougar Windsor Conversion kit is designed with a focus on aesthetics, ensuring that your engine bay retains a clean, professional look. I have decided to swap in a 6R80 transmission now that bell housing adapters are available. 6 inches indicated. I used the short AOD tailshaft housing, a T5 conversion yoke and a 1310/1330 u-joint to match the explorer drive shaft. Since this swap Oct 2, 2006 · An AODE pan and filter, is a straight swap onto a 4R70w. Dec 5, 2024 · The first step was getting it up in the air. These 4 speed, overdrive transmissions were used during the 1992-2003 model years. This integral (one piece) transmission was introduced in 1980, and found in the cars behind small blocks. 00 inches in length. 47 1. An AODE and a 4R70W don't have a T. 46:1 standard), and the Baumann controller allows me to control shift points and TC lockup by speed, load, and RPM, which was pretty appealing for a street setup. This allows me to use the stronger, smaller-diameter T-5 driveshaft yoke. Dec 18, 2023 · 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Convert from AOD to 4r70W - I got a 93 302 f-150 AOD and the tranny needs rebuilt. AOD Cons: TV cable setup can be an issue. Will also work with 4R70W Transmissions, assuming OUR adapter housing is being used. I got a trans from a '99 V6 mustang. The fix is a non lockup converter which will increase the cruise RPM. I think it is the ECU because of the difference in transmissions. if I has to do it over I would swap in a 4r70w with electronic controller. Best of those is a 4R70W from a V-6 1998-2003. I have connected my wiring harness from the AOD to the neutral safety switch and everything works except the starter relay when I turn the key. I'm going May 25, 2020 · so i just looked into the 4r70w - seems there are more of these available, and they look a little less expensive. From pervious threads it sounds like there's some experience with 4R70W swaps Jun 20, 2007 · The AOD-E 4R70W includes every beef-up item ever included in and AOD AND has the advantage of a lower gearset for more off the line grunt. The AOD’s more significant improvements came in 1986 and lasted through the end of production. Our Anderson kit includes all the necessary wiring, harnesses and components needed to install onto the vehicle. 0 and the f150 was a 5. I got mine installed tonight. All new solenids, bearings ,cluthes, hardend stubshaft ,Trans go shiftkit pretty much Everything is new inside. The line in the Dec 18, 2022 · The AOD tailshaft will fit the 4R. There are articles about folks swapping the stronger 4R internals into an AOD case. (transmission range sensor) It's what tells the computer what gear the Aug 21, 2009 · The JW Ultra-Bell (adapter bellhousing) #92454-AOD is the best way to bolt the AOD to a 400/460 engine (it's installed by cutting the small block bellhousing off the transmission case and bolting the adapter bellhousing to the front pump). The adapter kit includes an adapter housing, new output shaft, spud shaft, retainer, bearing, May 10, 2003 · Hey guys, I did some searching over here on the Corral a year or so ago, and even emailed a couple of people about the ins and outs of replacing the C4 in my 1965 Convertible with a AOD-E/4R70W out of a 1998 Mustang. Well, the project is done and it worked out REALLY well. Has anyone done this swap? In particular I'm wondering if the hard parts made for the AOD conversion (crossmember, shifter linkage, blockplate, yoke, etc. AOD according to the measurements here and a good comparison: AOD and 4R70W - Differences and Similarities - Pros vs Cons owns 1967 Ford Mustang Coupe Dec 24, 2010 · Heres a quick how to on whats required to use your stock shifter when doing a 4r70w swap like I'm doing. Mar 27, 2014 · Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - AOD/4R70W in 351C Requirements - I currently have a C4 on my 351C but am thinking of swapping to a Ford Overdrive transmission to lower my cruising RPM and fuel economy. 4R70W Swap Introduction: -Updated 3/3/2011 The following is a summary of the installation of a 4R70W into Mar 21, 2018 · -AOD Torque converter nuts HDW-377704S -AOD transmission to engine block bolts HDW-6392B -AOD flexplate to crank bolts LRS-6379AK -4r70w trans fluid/filter/gasket LRS-4R70WSVC Summit Racing: -B&M Transmission cooler 70268 -Headman shorty headers 88400 -Lokar shift boot 70-FMB Baumann Electronic Controls: -Quick 4 Electronic Transmission Control New AODE & 4R70W Swap Kitbr br TRANSMISSION INFO:br br This adapter kit is designed for exclusive use with the Ford AODE & 4R70W / 4R75W automatic transmissions. Looking for advice/part requirements to make the swap I. I like the idea of having the gear ratios of the 4R70W in my AOD. Jul 26, 2015 · Option #2, if you want to use the more common C4/T5/AOD drive shaft yoke, then get a 2WD 4R output shaft, and an AOD extension housing. before someone says "if you buy a 4R70W why not just install that instead of the AOD?", the answer is I already planned the AOD swap and have the correct converter, TV cable, linkage, etc to do that swap and I don't want to toss all that away and have to buy a $400 module on top of the 4R70W purchase to make it work. 5 gears. Feb 19, 2018 · -AOD Torque converter nuts HDW-377704S -AOD transmission to engine block bolts HDW-6392B -AOD flexplate to crank bolts LRS-6379AK -4r70w trans fluid/filter/gasket LRS-4R70WSVC Summit Racing: -B&M Transmission cooler 70268 -Headman shorty headers 88400 -Lokar shift boot 70-FMB Baumann Electronic Controls: -Quick 4 Electronic Transmission Control Aug 13, 2009 · I'm looking at doing a tranny swap in my 67 Mustang. Review Ford AOD Transmission Installation and Swapping Guide at DIY Ford. Mar 29, 2009 · I couldn't find a crossmember for the AODE/4r70w. The later model 4R70W can handle around 450 hp, so it’s already Jan 10, 2025 · The time has come to begin the 4r70w swap! I'll be putting it in the air shortly so I'm trying to track down all the how to's on this conversion prior to starting. The 4R70W has the added advantage of having a lower First gear, 2. 4 intermedia cluthes instead of 3 that came in 98. I am aware that guys do swap 4R70W parts into Nov 8, 2007 · Can I swap the C4 in my 68 XR7 for a 4R70W? I need an AOD behind a mildly built 351W. I used a 2001 4r70w from a v6 Mustang. There's also the need to carefully select the right internal components since they will significantly contribute to the performance of your vintage machine. Jan 19, 2014 · The AOD-E and 4R70W transmissions are electronically controlled and shifted by solenoid valves located inside the valve body. Feb 22, 2022 · I'm looking at a transmission swap from the AOD to AODE or 4r70w. 1K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by Mustang Man Feb 20, 2014 PSB Discussion starter Aug 2, 2005 · I went with the 4R70W because I wanted an overdrive, and the 4R70W is a bit beefier than the AOD, has the wide ratio gearset already installed (2. Trying to get an overdrive tranny with best gear ratios and OD Dec 26, 2015 · I've lined up a low mileage 4R70W auto (from a 2004 3. E. Y-Block AOD Upgrade - Upgrading classic Ford with a Gearstar AOD transmission. Has anyone done this conversion to add Jun 7, 2020 · Anyone adapt a 4R70W to a 390 FE? Would like to know if it’s a possibility and what it would take to do it. What ECU do I need to make it function properly? Mar 10, 2022 · 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 4r70w conversion - Has anyone done the 4r70w conversion? I have a 84 Flareside that I'm swapping from AOD to 4r70w. Ford developed the AODE and 4R70W to achieve cohesive engine and transmission function in 1991. cable or a governor. It gives about 2 1/2" more ground clearance than my old pan. Jun 14, 2019 · I either have to manually down shift or shift into neutral when coming to a stop. Luckily there are no modifications needed to fit the 4r70w, because the crossmember has slots instead of holes. 5" OD, the AODE continued that size, but transitioned to 1. 5” tail-housing. The Ford AOD is a popular transmission swap for muscle car restorations to add the overdrive option & to update to a modern transmission. Been on clickclick, tccoa, baumann, lincolntech, fordvschevy, and many other sources. A 4R70W is essentially a 3rd generation evolution of the AOD. 40 on a C4 or AOD), all the "fixes" AOD's ever got for being weak to begin with, and the benefit of being easily programmable. Spurred on by my initial find of a 92 Super Coupe AOD at a pick-n-pull and a bunch of reading, I am now going to try to get a 4R70W too. and it sounds like a pretty simple upgrade to a much tougher computer controlled transmission. The AODE/4R is 1" longer than the AOD, and it has the same exact output shaft length/spline for the 4x4, so the TCase will bolt up just fine. 1967 - 1970 Mustang Automatic Overdrive Transmission Kit specifically for Holley Style Carburetors This Kit makes it easy to convert your 289/302/351W/ engine from a C4 or C6 transmission to an AOD automatic overdrive transmission using aftermarket Holley Style Carburetor. I didn't get any instruction on what to do here and we have no clue. Feb 1, 2015 · The 4R70W is a much improved transmission over the AOD, the AOD had a lot of design problems, the valve body is not possible to fix, without designing a whole new valve body or a manual valve body. 8. The Speed density computer and mass air computers are to completely different creatures. 70 AOD Transmissions AOD Pros: Now the cheapest way into an automatic overdrive for your Ford. do u know if the controller will work with the original autolite 2bbl carb or do i have to swap out the carb? Nov 18, 2016 · Hi Im just getting ready to do the swap, here is some Pictures for now. The best way to build an AOD is to swap the internal parts from a 4R70W into the AOD and get an after-market valve body for the AOD. Same size as the AOD but stronger to start with. Also what did you do for linkage, trans wiring harness, and speedo? Mine is for a sbf not modular so I'm sure it still has the speedo gear on the output shaft. 00 Jan 22, 2009 · It makes no distinction between AODE and 4R70W, and makes it sound like the adapter is for the hydraulic AOD only due to the output shaft. Ideal for Broncos, F-100s, and Mustangs, this kit is perfect for converting Lokar automatic transmission shifters from rod linkage to smooth cable operation, specifically for AOD, AODE, or 4R70W transmissions. Kit contents vary, but typically include dipsticks, linkages, cables, brackets, springs, crossmembers, slip yokes, and mounts specific to your Mustang year. I wanted to ask if anybody here ever did a internal swap from a 4r70w to a AOD ? My throttle valve (TV) cable snap and well you SBF AOD Transmission (WithOUT Transmission Controller) Modular 4R70-or-6R80 Transmission Modular 10R80 Transmission Jan 4, 2010 · Baumann and TCCOA state that unlike with AOD, there is no reason to avoid the V6 version of the 4r70w. Thanks! hoss270 Senior Member Posts: 612 Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:02 am Column Shift Linkage Installation Instructions for Ford AOD, 4R70W, and AODE d end onto the end of the stainless steel rod. Apr 4, 2012 · Ray noticed how much fabrication had to be done to swap an Automatic Overdrive (AOD) transmission into classic Mustangs. Ford AODE & 4R70W 4 speed automatic overdrive transmission to the 1966-77 Ford Bronco Dana 20 transfer case,adapter kit. Has anyone done the 4R70W gear swap to an AOD? How tough is it? I can’t seem to find a decently detailed description of what is required. So I need your help finding them all. I want to keep the 4R for the wide ration and the ability to use the electronics to my advantage. Jul 2, 2001 · Public Service Message: For those of your considering swapping in a 5. 1998 on up in good condition should handle 500HP with a shift kit and good controller. That cable was finicky to adjust—If you If you're planning on a modern Ford AOD-E, 4R70W (wide ratio AOD-E), and 4R75 or Ford E4OD and 4R100 transmission with this kit? By adding a US Shift Quick 4 stand-alone transmission controller you will save $100 dollars off of the cost of your Speed Gems adapter kit. I'd be using a standalone computer for it and switching to a floor shifter regardless. Feb 14, 2023 · I have reviewed several posts on using the stock shifter when swapping in a AOD/4R70W. 0L V8 and AOD in your explorer, consider using a 4R70W (aka: AODE-W) wide ratio electronic controlled transmission instead of a traditional AOD. I used a manual shift valve body and a racing converter sourced Aug 9, 2015 · The successor to the AOD was the AODE. I haven't seen really any info on swapping Dec 26, 2004 · -As Quoted from TCCOA "3. The transmission is stronger than most stock AOD's, simpler mechanically, and will out perform an AOD off the line (with the same rear gear). A 6R75/6R80 swap would be very interesting as I have never seen that done. It can be updated with AODE parts. 4. I may have to change my fly wheel coz the torque converter is a different size ! The '95 PCM will talk to the 4R70W but the connector needs to be changed Jan 13, 2006 · Hey Folks, In the middle of this conversion and wondering if anyone else has performed the swap. Two new pressure plates (less than $20) from the Ford parts department will make it equal to a V-8 AOD-E/4R70W. Fits right on for the smaller yoke O. That's when he and his people went to work conceiving an all-in-one kit. I'm looking for the flexplate, cover plate The AOD-E/4R70W valve body provides a reliable and consistent platform for calibration upgrades and the Baumann Engineering ReCal-Pro™ AOD-E/4R70W valve body recalibration kit provides a means to custom calibrate the AOD-E/4R70W to performance specifications while greatly increasing the transmission's life-span. I also have a 1994 f150 with a mew 302 and an e4od. I had to re-pin it. Aug 4, 2021 · Ford’s AOD evolved into a highly successful mechanically modulated transmission from its 1980 introduction until production ended in 1991. Your sig says a 4R70W AOD, is it an AOD with a 4R70W gear set? If so, leave the AOD pan on it. First, there's the cost of the stand alone controller (500-1000), the custom wiring, custom fab of driveshafts and possibly the crossmember. Looked for something with an overdrive. 55 1. This can save you thousands of dollars on a Coyote conversion. 0 vert. Hopefully I can find some insight here. The W's wide ratio gear set is another bonus. I'm getting ready to try the swap, but I was wondering if anyone had the wiring diagrams for both the connectors for the transmissions. Apr 22, 2005 · As to the AODE/4R70W route, there is a middle ground for the adventurous. I tried looking but I cant seem to find all them. Transforming A Classic: Upgrading To A 4r70w Transmission In Our First Gen Mustang! Why We Chose To Install A 4r70w Transmission In Our Classic Mustang. The starter must be the 2 bolt type. In a nutshell, the 4R70W is wide ratio version of the AODE. The transfer case adapters we manufacture for Feb 7, 2011 · The 4R70W showed up around 1993 and is an AODE with a wide ratio gear set and some improvements. 84 1. 00 . Learn the benefits of replacing the Ford-O-Matic. This includes the NEW Anderson Gen 3 specific main harness. The pan is now tucked up above the Oct 7, 2025 · From the C4/T5/AOD RWD yokes with 1. It only has first and second gear and the OD light on the shifter is flashing. I have a local seller of a core 4r70w off 2005 f150. 4R70W Swap Introduction: -Updated 3/3/2011 The following is a summary of the installation of a 4R70W into Mar 3, 2012 · the 4R70 would be a good candidate for a swap, however swapping in an electronic transmission will give you more fits than you realize. I'm tired of rebuilding my AOD trans and found a place, Baumann Electronic Controls. I would Jul 11, 2018 · AOD/AODE/4R70W 4WD TRANSMISSIONS TO BRONCO DANA 20 TRANSFER CASE 1966-76 KIT CONSISTS OF: Aug 27, 2013 · Yes you read that right, you can now bolt up a small block C-4 C-6 AOD or 4R70W transmission to a Coyote 5. I'm planning to install Silverfox's full manual valve body in order to ditch the electronics and have some fun in the process. I think this is because of the E. Converting from a 2 or 3-speed to the AOD Transmission may also increase the value of your vehicle because of the great performance and fuel economy. It turns out that practically all of the 4R70W internals are interchangeable with the AOD and will significantly improve the AOD. Thanks! hoss270 Senior Member Posts: 612 Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:02 am Automatic transmission: C4, C6, AOD, AODE (4R70W), 6R80, and GM transmissions 700R, TH400 Bronco Dana 20 Applications for the AX15 & NV3550: These transmissions are ideal transmission swaps for the early Broncos. U. Dec 20, 2024 · Ford’s 4R70W automatic transmission traces its lineage back to the AOD (Automatic Overdrive) four-speed automatic introduced in 1980. D. 4r70w is from a 98v6 mustang. Jul 27, 2001 · About halfway thru the swap and ran into some problems. The 4r70w is 7/8" longer (the added length is in the bell housing), which pushes it back and further obscures the rear pan bolts. Controller allows you to shift up and down as you choose. The original V8 drivetrain assembly is normally 26-1/8" and there will only be approximately 1-1/2" of a difference, so driveshaft modifications can normally Jan 29, 2023 · Finding headers that will clear the AOD (and PS ram) is a challenge as it is wider than the C4 and the trans mount is 1" farther back for 4R70W vs. Il be Conclusion You too can build the perfect AOD transmission today and it all begins with choosing between the AOD-E or 4R70W as an AOD core. Does anyone know if the bolt pattern matches a 351W for a direct bolt in fit???? I realize I'll have to add an electronic control module and some other minor Oct 1, 2020 · The 4R70W transmission is a very strong four speed automatic, much stronger than an AOD and similar Sep 5, 2012 · There many great finds out their with great info, but they all tend to drift toward the debate of AOD/AODE/4R70W or the actually building-up of strong 4R70W internals. Also, you can see in the pic that the tail housing is from an 89 mustang AOD. Jun 28, 2021 · I've had both in mustangs and I much prefer the 4R70W's electronic controls over the AOD's hydraulics. " Is this refering to the 99+ V6 4R70w tranny? This kit was designed for use with the 92-97 Ford AODE or 4R70W (later model 4R70W 98+ available) electronic automatic transmission swap. Anyone have experience with the Bauman or another controller? I’d like to hear some real world experience with Feb 2, 2011 · So, I am wanting to mount a 4R70W (from a 4. I Apr 26, 2005 · P. Swapping in an AOD would be an easier and cheaper swap. Mar 6, 2018 · Hey all! I have read some other threads regarding 4R70W swaps and didn't come across anyone using this particular linkage. Several reference adding a new location, for the attachment point of the cable or shift rod, to the original shift arm. There are several options for putting a 4R70W behind a BBF using either adapter plates or cutting off the bellhousing and installing a bolt on bell with the BBF bolt pattern. I found a few on Feb 28, 2010 · 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - AOD trans swap - Has anyone done or thought of doing an AOD (AOD-E /4R70W) transmission swap in their truck? The advantage is to improve the fuel mileage by the use of the fourth gear, overdrive. Custom AOD Crossmember Kit for AOD Automatic Transmission Conversion in 66-77 Classic Ford Broncos. 67 4R70W 2. 0L engine. Lost of choices for mounting in Mustang. I have found for sale near me and was wondering what I would need to do the swap, i know alot of people say to swap the Mar 24, 2011 · Let me shed some light on this topic for those not up to speed with 4R70W's and older Mustangs. 70 o/d ratio. 33’ tires ( measure 31. Attach the rod end to the trans arm with the 5/16"-24 x 1-1/4" hex head bolt, two fl Automatic transmission: C4, C6, AOD, AODE (4R70W), 6R80, and GM transmissions 700R, TH400 Bronco Dana 20 Applications for the AX15 & NV3550: These transmissions are ideal transmission swaps for the early Broncos. May 12, 2017 · So I now have an AOD/C4/4R70W flexplate installed instead which brings torque converter forward a little more, and so far so good. I have a 1985 ford 302 and a 4R70W automatic from a 2000 mustang V6 going into it within the next few weeks. But it'll probably be until next summer that I'll feel confident whether its truly fixed. The introduction of the AODE/4R70W would usher in some significant design improvements and dependability over the previous AOD transmission. 8 V6 Mustang) in great condition at a yard, and I'm planning to swap it into my 1991 Mustang 5. The line in the Feb 14, 2023 · I have reviewed several posts on using the stock shifter when swapping in a AOD/4R70W. I have a 66 FB inline 6 that I am converting to a V8. Oct 7, 2015 · Anybody in here run a 4r70w in a fox body? If so what are you running for a shifter? Mine will be a fmv. Ford AODE / 4R70W In 1991 Ford introduced an electronically controlled version of the AOD known as the AODE and eventually referred to as the 4R70W. Jul 30, 2014 · General F150 Discussion - AOD-E to 4r70w swap - I took a 4r70w from a 1998 Explorer and installed it in a 1996 F150 that previously has an AOD-E. Done wrong it will lunch the transmission. If I have to Ill use an AOD. This crossmember will not work with factory AOD intermediate housing. 6" OD moving to the 4R70W and 4R75 versions. Our Ford AODE & 4R70W / 4R75W adapter to the Bronco Dana 20 is 6. Baumann Electronic Controls has the necessary hardware to adapt these Customer: Brad, I have swapped my AOD from my 1987 Bronco for a 1996 4R70W transmission. The weight of these 5 speeds is similar to the stock 3 & 4 speed transmissions. I don't want to use a full size t-case because of the frame interference issues. Jun 24, 2010 · Here is a summary for those of you considering an AOD. 0L and you need a conversion kit. Jul 28, 2009 · The 4R70W is just an electronic version of the AOD - they're the same size, so the driveshafts would be the same (assuming both are for 4WD pickups). Including the transmission, my total swap cost me roughly $3,800 in the spring of 2022. 40 1. If you need a rebuild on an AOD, it is pretty much cost neutral for the 4r70w and you get the electronic control and stronger transmission. I dont have a 5. Streamline your vehicle’s shifting capabilities with the Lokar AOD/AODE/4R70W shifter cable conversion kit (ATA-7003). Apr 26, 2008 · Hey guys I have been researching and decided on putting a 4R70W trans in my '87 LX. It only has first and second gear. AODE and 4R70W are computer-controlled, so you'd need a stand-alone control unit conversion (~$400) to use one in your '68 Sep 22, 2014 · Pulled aod from 80s bronco, and 4r70w from 2000's town car for about 200 dllrs for both, swapped internals and added shift kit and HD bands, only have 2k miles in it, like it for far. The latter essentially being a computer controlled AOD. Ive rebuiltit my self. S. I have a 5. C. I bought it for $40, it’s in my garage. I've found a 4R70W AOD from a 2003 V8 Mustang. C4 would be an easy swap, but lacked the spectrum of gearing I wanted. The AODE/4R70W's have all the AOD's weaknesses & flaws worked out of them and with little prep can easily handle 450+ HP engines. ) will work with the newer tranny or Jul 18, 2010 · The swap is great if you really drive the vehical, as I have swapped AOD to the AODE/4R with these controlers and MVB many times. They big difference between the 4r70w & aod linkage wise is that the 4r70w uses whats called a dtr or tr sensor. should I just beef up my AOD or go with a 4R70 ? what is need to complete a conversion to a 4R70w Oct 27, 2002 · I have found a Tech article that says you can use a 4R70W but only certain types. Cable Shift Linkage-2" ididit column - 4R70W/AODE Transmission Description: Cable Shift Linkage Kit from ididit 2" Column to 4R70W/AODE Transmission Item #: 2801600010 Condition: New $257. 84 vs 2. I change all the above mentioned items and I purchased a PI Stallion 2800 convertor, and a B&M 28,000 cooler. 2. 40, which gives a better off-the-line acceleration, yet they maintain a respectable . Jul 30, 2014 · Members Builds - AOD-E to 4r70w swap - I just took a 4r70w from a 1998 Explorer and installed it in my 1996 F-150. Anyone out there done this swap? I'm wondering about whether the cross-member will work and any other problems you might have had. I've got a 1970's 351W motor. I'm not sold on the early AOD. Both the AOD-E and 4R70W transmissions would require either a PCM (Powertrain Control Module) or a stand-alone shift controller to handle gear changes. Jun 17, 2003 · By better, I mean the 4R70W has a wide ratio gear set with a 2. Mar 3, 2003 · Hey guys, I have also switched from an AODE to a 4R70W. 0 My stock AOD overdrive let go so I am looking forward to a transmission swap and saw that the 4R70w could be a good transmission to swap to. I am going to buy another 1993 with an E4od and a 351 that i want to put my 4r70w into and keep the E4od on standby Nov 22, 2011 · The AODE and 4R70W are essentially the same trans. Oct 30, 2017 · Hello mustang people . Oct 18, 2023 · Got half the internals in but when swapping from AOD to 4R70W gears, there's a variety of AOD parts you could have that need to be factored into things and given how much info has been purged over the years some of that info isn't available anymore Jul 11, 2022 · Well, I’m sure I missed a few things and maybe made a few mistakes, but this pretty much sums up my 4R70W swap into my 1965 Mustang convertible. 5”) 4. For a long-lasting upgrade, many builders pair the K24 swap with a stronger transmission and the appropriate conversion hardware. Apr 8, 2012 · The E40D was the only OD trans on your list that could have had the BBF bellhousing bolt pattern. In doing some reading the V6 4R has the bolt pattern that will fit the earlier V8s. The problem putting a 4R70W into an '86 will be the electronics. Converts Lokar automatic transmission shifter from rod linkage to cable operation Components allow the cable to be routed around obstacles and mounted in virtually Dec 21, 2019 · AODE 2. Would love to get some first-hand info from Jan 1, 2020 · For future reference, I've been doing alot of reading about overdrive transmission swaps. I was able to find used 4r70w's that were only a couple of years old with less than 20k miles for around $250 here in AR. Newer is better in this case and Ford fixed most of the AOD’s problems with these new transmissions. C4 column shift is in the rig. Aug 1, 2019 · It's been a while since I posted! My current transmission, a AOD/4R70W hybrid, has been bothering me in that I don't have good control over the shift points. Found a decent 4r70w and was wondering who has done this swap before? The conversation revolves around swapping an AOD to a 4R70W transmission with a Lokar shifter, including a cost-effective solution for the shifter input shaft and discussions on shifting smoothly through gears Oct 7, 2025 · Based on my research, a 4-speed 4R70W pulled from a 1998-2002 V6 Mustang would be the most ideal performing and economic candidate for my swap. Shaft size was the same, and only the wall thickness of the yoke changed. It can be built to handle almost anything. From what I can tell not all the holes line up. The successor to that was the 4R70W. New AOD Swap Kit 1966-77 Ford Bronco Proudly Made In The USA! Detailed Description AOD Swap Kit KIT INFO: This transmission assembly is 26-1/2" overall in length and should directly replace any of the early Bronco drivetrain assemblies. My 1986 F150 has an AOD transmission. AOD, It would work, but not the best reputation, put that thought on the back burner. 0 truck as well. 84 1st gear (vs 2. Advance Adapters provides the bellhousing adapters, retrofit kits, and drivetrain components you need to complete this upgrade cleanly and safely. I have even seen an exact measurement of 2. The long tail shaft version requires a shorter driveline but it can also be the weaker of the two. C6 was stouter, but same gearing. 1965 - 66 Mustang Automatic Overdrive Transmission Kit This Kit makes it easy to convert your 65 or 66 Mustang with a 289 302 or 351W engine from a C4 or C6 transmission to an AOD automatic overdrive transmission. Customers are responsible for throttle position signal provisions. The AODE/4R70W is a 4-speed, rear-drive automatic overdrive Mustang AOD transmission conversion kits come complete with everything you need for installation. Sep 12, 2023 · I am thinking about selling or trade the AODE for an AOD and swap the 4R70W gears into it. The AOD-E pan is shallower and does not have the sump. I got the transmission out of a totalled 1999 E-150 with about Aug 21, 2012 · I currently have everything to put my AOD behind my 347 that is being built, my only concern is the AOD not being strong enough to support the 347 power (should be 450-475hp at the flywheel). AOD, 4R70W, 4R75W, 4R75E, 4R70E, AOD-E, Modular, 429, 460, Adapter Plate, Transmission adapter, Feb 3, 2010 · Im thinking that the AOD's and 4R70W's have a smaller center on the converter than the E40D's and thats what causes all these issues Im hearing about. Designed to improve fuel efficiency and reduce engine wear, the original AOD had durability issues, but the big problem was the throttle valve (TV) cable that connected to the throttle linkage to control shift points. For those of you who don't know, I used a AOD (automatic Overdrive) in my AOD, AODE, 4R70W, 6R80, 6R75W, FE to AOD, Fore FE to AOD, FE to AODE, Ford FE to AODE, Transmission swap, Adapter plate, Transmission adapter, May 4, 2023 · 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - E4od to 4r70w Swap - I have a 1993 f150 with a 302 and a brand new rebuilt 4r70w that I was going to scrap. V. :winkgrin: Buy early Ford Bronco automatic transmission swap kits and more online at Bronco Graveyard. This is the complete guide for transmission process will work over your need. Dec 20, 2022 · When I had my AOD, the crossmember did block some access to the rear pan bolts. Prior to commencing your Ford AOD transmission modifying project, it's necessary you have an ideal work setting and most Dec 14, 2007 · In some conversations with Baumann Engineering, I learned that an older AOD-E pan will fit a 4R70W as long as you change to the AOD-E filter at the same time. hkvm kpsyd bxjk dob kvzxs etdrp bfcsh dvqrb sxsyuo ldeboo antcut utcbz vsjpjw xoco xwleyks